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alex

08-12-2008, 01:44 AM

http://app.webindustry.asn.au/members/

Why are Conexim and TN3 listed first? Are they paid ads? If so, they should be marked (although that really isn't an appropriate place for ads). If not, why aren't they in alphabetical order like the others?

tuna

08-12-2008, 06:50 AM

This was an indexing error it has been corrected, thank you for bringing it to our attention

tealou

08-12-2008, 10:30 AM

I am totally setting up AAAAAAA Website Design a la Yellow Pages.

heheh

Ruxton

08-12-2008, 10:31 AM

I am totally setting up AAAAAAA Website Design a la Yellow Pages.

heheh

Doesn't AAA come before AAAAAAA?

tuna

08-12-2008, 10:47 AM

Nah you need :

1111111111AAAAAAA that beats them all! :)

Botman

08-12-2008, 10:57 AM

_1111111111aaaaaaa :D

Vee

08-12-2008, 11:27 AM

Which begs the question; why aren't the Business Members with linked names, randomly listed?

tealou

08-12-2008, 12:27 PM

Yeah, that's why Bam & Eduka get more enquiries than me, it's all just alphabetical ;)

tuna

08-12-2008, 12:27 PM

Which begs the question; why aren't the Business Members with linked names, randomly listed?
That can be put to the volunteer development Sub-committee.

alex

08-12-2008, 01:16 PM

This was an indexing error it has been corrected, thank you for bringing it to our attention

Could you be a little more specific?

ashul

08-12-2008, 01:23 PM

Tea to get to #1 on that list is easy no need to put in 1'a or A's - btw I got told off when I changed our name to web design perth :p - perhaps in that part of the system only allow the TA name and/or the Incorporation name and don't allow it to be editable.. So eduka solutions t/a web stuff people and not eduka solutions web stuff and more web

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tuna

08-12-2008, 01:47 PM

Could you be a little more specific?

Sorry but no. The issue is being looked into.

alex

08-12-2008, 02:04 PM

Sorry but no. The issue is being looked into.

So is that list automated or done by hand? Why can't you discuss it?

Alfreido

08-12-2008, 02:10 PM

Since Gary said it was an 'indexing error' - and I have no reason to believe that typos are now called 'indexing errors' - I think it's a safe bet to say it's automated. :)

tealou

08-12-2008, 02:13 PM

errr I don't think it's a grand conspiracy... why should Gary explain more than he has?

Ashul, it never occured to me to put anything more than the truth, which is what I trade as. I should have gone with my original business name, which was "Awesome" - but it was already taken heh.

kay

08-12-2008, 02:23 PM

Correct, there is no grand conspiracy!

We've discovered an oversight in validation of records that came from an older version of our database that affects the ordering of the names, and until the underlying issue is fixed once and for all there's no point telling everyone what it is exactly or you'll all go and try it out.

Besides, I think if Franki paid the AWIA committee to put him at the top of the list, we would have at least got enough out of him to retire to a tax-free data haven in the Cayman Islands. We'd be sipping margaritas on the beach, not hanging out on these forums.

As it is, unfortunately, we're all still here :)

kay

08-12-2008, 02:25 PM

Also, if your main source of enquiries is the AWIA member listing page, you might wanna rethink your marketing strategy :)

tuna

08-12-2008, 02:33 PM

sorry for short replies.... connection in the Cayman Islands is a bit dodgy at the moment :D

alex

08-12-2008, 02:48 PM

Correct, there is no grand conspiracy!

Besides, I think if Franki paid the AWIA committee to put him at the top of the list, we would have at least got enough out of him to retire to a tax-free data haven in the Cayman Islands. We'd be sipping margaritas on the beach, not hanging out on these forums.

Also, if your main source of enquiries is the AWIA member listing page, you might wanna rethink your marketing strategy

Thanks for the sarcastic replies.

until the underlying issue is fixed once and for all there's no point telling everyone what it is exactly or you'll all go and try it out.

And for assuming we are all so desperate that we would bother to game the AWIA.

We've discovered an oversight in validation of records that came from an older version of our database that affects the ordering of the names

This was all that was required

Franki

08-12-2008, 02:57 PM

Thanks for nothing Alex! Now I have to go and find another list that sends 2 visitors per month to hack (or pay) and place myself at the top :rolleyes:

Your initial post implies a lot of stuff, maybe you would have received less sarcasms if the post merely point out the oversight?

alex

08-12-2008, 03:00 PM

Thanks for nothing Alex! Now I have to go and find another list that sends 2 visitors per month to hack and place myself at the top :rolleyes:

Why did you bother in the first place? You can try make me look petty all you like, but you are the one who actually tried to exploit this.

Franki

08-12-2008, 03:04 PM

exploit what exactly?

(btw and purely FYI, I added more stuff to my reply while you were replying)

alex

08-12-2008, 03:09 PM

exploit what exactly?

Don't know, its so super top secret no one will tell me exactly how to do it.

Your initial post implies a lot of stuff, maybe you would have received less sarcasms if the post merely point out the oversight?

No it doesn't, it asks if it was a paid advertisement or an error. I would assume that the Australian Web Industry Association were capable of ordering a list alphabetically, hence the possibility that it could be a paid placement.

Franki

08-12-2008, 03:13 PM

Man, you got a lot nerve throwing accussations around when you yourself don't know what you're talking about (exploit). Didn't Gary and Kay already provide an answer as to why the list was funky?

Alfreido

08-12-2008, 03:15 PM

I would assume that the Australian Web Industry Association were capable of ordering a list alphabetically, hence the possibility that it could be a paid placement.

Now look who's using sarcasm.

Your query was answered, alex, it was a bug and it is in the process of being quashed. It's out of your control but at least you've alerted the people whose control it is under. Just let it go.

alex

08-12-2008, 03:18 PM

Man, you got a lot nerve throwing accussations around when you yourself don't know what you're talking about (exploit). Didn't Gary already provide an answer as to why the list was funky?

Actually no he didn't. The closest was Kay's respone:
We've discovered an oversight in validation of records that came from an older version of our database that affects the ordering of the names, and until the underlying issue is fixed once and for all there's no point telling everyone what it is exactly or you'll all go and try it out.

This implies that the system can be exploited in a way which allows a user to bypass the alphabetical ordering.

SteveC

08-12-2008, 03:19 PM

Does it really matter... forget it and move on....

mattman

08-12-2008, 03:19 PM

Ok, let's take a time out and everyone take a step back to their corners.

Alex - While I understand you wanting to question why those two were at the top of the list, once you got an explanation that was appropriate, was there a need to probe further?

If the committee went "oh, you do xyz to get to the top" there's someone that's going to try it.

You've had a response now that your happy with and perhaps it's best if everyone just leaves this thread alone now.

alex

08-12-2008, 03:19 PM

Now look who's using sarcasm.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I was providing you with a logical series of steps in my head that lead to me deducing that it is possible that the ad was paid for. The fact that you interpret it as sarcasm is interesting though.

tuna

08-12-2008, 03:22 PM

.... I would assume that the Australian Web Industry Association were capable of ordering a list alphabetically, hence the possibility that it could be a paid placement.

Alex it was an ERROR, drop the topic please. The page is automated FYI

Franki

08-12-2008, 03:26 PM

Actually no he didn't. The closest was Kay's respone:

And I've corrected that 2 minutes before your reply.

This implies that the system can be exploited in a way which allows a user to bypass the alphabetical ordering.

Why don't you put some your of your skillz to AWIA volunteering?

Over and out.

alex

08-12-2008, 03:30 PM

And I've corrected that 2 minutes before your reply.

Am I supposed to go back and check your posts whilst replying?

Why don't you put some your of your skillz to AWIA volunteering?

Why don't you spam the internet with more web sites that serve no purpose.

tealou

08-12-2008, 03:38 PM

http://www.linkartist.com.au/popcorn_1000002.jpg

Alfreido

08-12-2008, 03:38 PM

Why don't you spam the internet with more web sites that serve no purpose.

Your original edit was less troll-ish.

alex

08-12-2008, 03:39 PM

Your original edit was less troll-ish.

But it wasn't as funny

Franki

08-12-2008, 03:47 PM

Why don't you spam the internet with more web sites that serve no purpose.

What caused you to even think that I haven't? Now, you're gonna volunteer for AWIA or what?