Interesting article

[Dave]

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001234.html

Unleash the wolves...

[Franki]

That's an excellent great way to look at validation, but then again I'm biased because that's how I've always view validation as

[webfaery]

On a similar note, Jeffrey Zeldman posted an interesting article last week about a web standards/validation test he recently ran.
Web Standards Test: Top 100 Sites

[madpilot]

Why don't we just throw away object oriented-programming and start using GOTO statements again while we are at it...

[tuna]

Originally Posted by madpilot

Why don't we just throw away object oriented-programming and start using GOTO statements again while we are at it...

01 PRINT  FLAKEY CODE 
02 PRINT  FLAKEY SITE 
03 SAVE   VAR PAYMENT 
04 ABORT FLAKEY SITE
05 GOTO 01

Easy money

[Dave]

I always make sure our sites validate before being put live - because it's not hard to do. Unfortunately you can't guarantee what a client will do with their content afterwards.

Funnily enough, Firebug reports 3 warnings on the w3c site, with malformed URIs

[heist]

Originally Posted by madpilot

Why don't we just throw away object oriented-programming and start using GOTO statements again while we are at it...

i actually think he distilled it really well with:

Validate your HTML. Know what it means to have valid HTML markup. Understand the tooling. More information is always better than less information. Why fly blind?

Nobody cares if your HTML is valid. Except you. If you want to. Don't think for a second that producing perfectly valid HTML is more important than running your website, delivering features that delight your users, or getting the job done.

so we don't throw away OO and go back to GOTOs because -we care- about that stuff, just like our site's validation. just don't expect the client or the customers to.

[madpilot]

Originally Posted by heist

i actually think he distilled it really well with:

Validate your HTML. Know what it means to have valid HTML markup. Understand the tooling. More information is always better than less information. Why fly blind?

Nobody cares if your HTML is valid. Except you. If you want to. Don't think for a second that producing perfectly valid HTML is more important than running your website, delivering features that delight your users, or getting the job done.

so we don't throw away OO and go back to GOTOs because -we care- about that stuff, just like our site's validation. just don't expect the client or the customers to.

Yeah, that's my point - customers don't care, but what they do care is that we know what we are doing.

[mrcreative]

valid html and css make sure that your layout will not brake under any situation and compatible with all the devise user will use.

[thezeski]

Originally Posted by mrcreative

valid html and css make sure that your layout will not brake under any situation and compatible with all the devise user will use.

Except Internet Explorer... which usually needs a helpful nudge or sometimes absolutely horrific butchery